Those Ranchers Will Get Rid of Those Nasty Bighorn Sheep One Way or Another

A fight is brewing over domestic sheep grazing in bighorn sheep habitat in Wyoming. The Biodiversity Conservation Alliance filed a lawsuit last year to protect the small Encampment herd of bighorn sheep from coming into contact with disease ridden domestic sheep which would likely kill the entire herd if contact between the two species were to occur. In reaction, the ranchers got legislation introduced that would instruct the Wyoming Game and Fish Department to remove a portion of the herd as retribution.

It seems as if wildlife on public lands belongs to only those with a monetary interest in destroying it. Nothing new here. Move along.

Butting heads: Ranchers unhappy with lawsuit; Bighorn sheep bill moves forward.
Rawlins Times


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  1. Richie G Avatar
    Richie G

    Ken what else is new these fin ranchers make me sick they are killing such a beautiful place what else can I say,it is disgusting.

  2. Joseph C. Allen Avatar
    Joseph C. Allen

    There MUST be a public UPRISING against the use/abuse of public lands by private commerce. Welfare ranching has got to end.

  3. DLB Avatar
    DLB

    Any scenario that involves conservation values vs money is going to be a long, drawn out battle with a lot of ups and downs.

    Hopefully you folks at WWP don’t get too jaded.

  4. CodyCoyote Avatar
    CodyCoyote

    Well, you know what they say . ” WYOMING—where men are men , the women are too, and the sheep are nervous. “

    1. DLB Avatar
      DLB

      You must be thankful for your sense of humor. I doubt someone with your values could have stayed so long in WY without one….

      1. CodyCoyote Avatar
        CodyCoyote

        Yup. Need humour.
        Can’t afford Prozac , Cymbalta, or Wellbutrin.

        As much as I like Lamb , I refuse to buy it because of lousy livestock policies.

        FYI— in it’s heyday , Wyoming ran over 7 million sheep , 3X the number of cattle. That is now down to less than 200,000 sheep in a good year, a reduction of ~98 percent.

        I am always astounded at how much political clout sheepgrowers still retain in Wyoming to this day , since they are an endangered species.

        1. mikepost Avatar
          mikepost

          CC< you always have good things to say…but your math leaves much to be desired….

        2. Ida Lupine Avatar
          Ida Lupine

          Me either, I don’t think eating meat is ‘wrong’ necessarily – but I won’t because of lousy ranch policies either. And now their going after bison isn’t helping matters.

          Humor is always good. 🙂

        3. Ralph Maughan Avatar
          Ralph Maughan

          Well, I guess we know who the real “takers” there are as opposed to the “makers!”

  5. Ralph Maughan Avatar
    Ralph Maughan

    The ranchers are in full cry. They are going to take back the West and teach the rest of us useless folks who is boss.

    In Montana they have 4 bills in the legislature to make shooting of bison anywhere in the state more or less mandatory, and they even want to go after the elk using their tired old excuse of brucellosis. If they really cared one bit about humans getting brucellosis (which is very rare), they would ban the sale of the only source of infection to people in the U.S. — consumption of raw milk.

    About the only kind of wildlife ranchers will abide are deer. Of course, to reiterate, it really isn’t about elk, bison, wolves, bears, or bighorn, it is that they don’t think we haven’t been treating them with the respect or showering them with the new subsidies they think they deserve as the masters of the land.

    They are also no doubt agitated by the selling of many ranches to billionaires. . . one of many examples Billionaire brothers buy another Idaho ranch

    1. Elk275 Avatar
      Elk275

      Ralph, except in Montana the millionaires sold their ranches to the billionaires. The Pronghorn was owned by Holding, he owns or did own Sun Valley and Little America, and the N Bar was owned by a start up type millionaire.

      1. Ralph Maughan Avatar
        Ralph Maughan

        Thanks Elk275. There was an article I couldn’t find this morning about all the big ranch transactions going in Montana. If anyone could post the URL great!

        1. Leslie Avatar

          Holding, my neighbor in Sunlight Basin. He basically owns all the bottomlands and runs cattle here in the summer.

  6. Renae Avatar
    Renae

    You know I love wildlife and thats why I come to your site. Some of the things you say are so untrue!! Ranchers DO NOT think bighorn sheep are nasty! In fact it is the other way around. You think sheep and cows are nasty. What in the world are we going to eat when the farmers and ranchers are gone?

    1. Ralph Maughan Avatar
      Ralph Maughan

      Renae,

      When I say “ranchers.” It is shorthand. I don’t mean all people who own livestock, or even a majority of them perhaps.

      I mean those organized groups who claim to represent livestock interests. It is these people who go to the legislature and put people up to run for office.

      They are often officers in livestock associations. Some of them don’t own any cattle, sheep, goats, horses, whatever, at all. However, they will have a big hat and boots for when their job takes them to Boise or Helena or Cheyenne to do some “Howdying,” and “here is a bill that will save us from the menace of bison or bighorn.”

      Perhaps I should should say “that politically active and dominant segment of the livestock industry that has long held sway in Western politics,” but I just say “ranchers.”

      But in addition to that politically active and dominant segment of the livestock industry that has long held sway in Western politics there are also the wannabes.

      A lot of them grew up in California or Seattle, or Texas and watched cowboy movies (Westerns) that taught them about the way the West was. Unfortunately, for us, it was actually the way the West wasn’t. They moved to Montana or Idaho and bought ten acres and decided they were going to defend the Western tradition as expressed by Hollywood back in the day.

      1. Immer Treue Avatar
        Immer Treue

        “Some of them don’t own any cattle, sheep, goats, horses, whatever, at all. However, they will have a big hat…”

        There exists a joke… No intention to insult the folks who use the old Cowboy hat for what I can only assume were/are it’s original functions

        What do cowboy hats and hemmoroids have in common? allow your creative imagination to fill in the punch line.

        1. Nancy Avatar
          Nancy

          “What do cowboy hats and hemmoroids have in common?”

          They both come with asses? Disclaimer: that DOESN’T apply to all cowboy hats 🙂

    2. JB Avatar
      JB

      “What in the world are we going to eat when the farmers and ranchers are gone?”

      Renae: I didn’t see anyone advocate getting rid of farming? And if you read Ralph’s post you’ll see he mentions wildlife on public lands (i.e., federal public lands that belong to everyone in the US). Personally, I have no problem with farming or ranching, so long as it’s done in a sustainable manner that does not degrade the surrounding environment.

      But to answer your question directly… given the amount of food and water resources that go into growing livestock, I suspect the future holds a shift toward plant-based sources of protein.

      1. Louise Kane Avatar

        I hope you are right JB better for everyone and for wildlife

        1. Louise Kane Avatar

          and domesticated animals also

    3. Jay Avatar
      Jay

      I won’t be eating any cow or sheep, that’s for damn sure.

  7. Leslie Avatar

    Another

    http://www.ibtimes.com/billionaire-tom-siebels-montana-ranch-sold-259097

    Is it just a dream to have your own cattle ranch? Or mostly the tax write-off for these people?

    1. Robert R Avatar
      Robert R

      Lesie this was his second ranch in Montana. His other one on the Dearborn River is eighty thousand plus acres. These are hobbie ranches.

  8. Renae Avatar
    Renae

    Ralph, since you mean organized groups instead of ranchers then it would be considerate of you to start putting the blame where it belongs. It leaves some people to believe, like Richie G, that ranchers are killing a beautiful place, and they would like the ranchers killed. I believe ranchers help to keep it beautiful and you wont convince me otherwise. I live in a place where there are ranches and public land and it is very beautiful. Ranchers actually do take care of the land they own and lease. They have to, to ensure it will sustain their cattle. JB I am actually against feeding corn to cows. It would be much better for all if we just had grass fed beef. Unless there is a drought there is usually plenty of grass to go around. This might surprise you all but I dont eat beef or lamb either. I did grow a garden for the last 2 years and it sure took lots of water.

    1. Ida Lupine Avatar
      Ida Lupine

      To be honest with you, personally I would rather see ranchers on the land than having it broken up and subdeveloped and that sort of thing!

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