Response to Misguided Guardian Yellowstone Commentary



Mammoth Hot Springs, Yellowstone NP
Yellowstone is a high plateau covered with snow much of the year. It is not a good place for animals or humans, especially when there was much greater amounts of low elevation terrain where winter conditions were not as severe were available. George Wuerthner
Prior to the creation of Yellowstone NP in 1872, only a few white trappers and miners had penetrated what is now Yellowstone NP. There was no discussion about creating a park until the first government expeditions such as the Hayden Expedition (for which Hayden Valley is named) had surveyed the landscape. Photo George Wuerthner
Manhattan, New York. Every part of the United States was once part of some tribe’s territory. Why focus on national parks? Photo George Wuerthner
Many native people obtained obsidian used for arrowheads and cutting tools from Obsidian Cliffs in Yellowstone which was passed by trade route as far away as Ohio. Photo George Wuerthner

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George Wuerthner is an ecologist and former hunting guide with a degree in wildlife biology
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My only comment to your correct and informative post, is to please, in the future, refer to the sub-tribe of Native Americans who sometimes spent spring, summer and fall in what is now the southern part of Yellowstone NP as “Tukudika” or “Northern Shoshone”, which is what they called themselves. They spoke the Shoshone language.
Thank you. Keep up the good work debunking Native narratives about their land use and alleged abuse. There was enough real abuse without having to make stuff up in order to gin up some sort of payments or whatever by the government for their alleged losses.
A decade after Yellowstone NP was founded in 1872, US soldiers were brought in NOT to drive out the Native Americans, but instead, soldiers were brought in to arrest and drive out the white land-grabbers, poachers, market hunters and other assorted criminals, who were quickly destroying the Park’s wildlife.
“We know from the archeological sites ( over 1800 ) that Native Americans used the lands of the now Yellowstone National Park for more than 11,000 years”. from Yellowstone Science Vol 26 issue 1 by Hale, Johnson and Gore.
And there is probably a lot more undiscovered evidence of early habitation because only 3-5% of the parks land area has been surveyed.
So, I would say that indigenous folks lived there or did joy riding little gray people in their saucer ships drop arrow heads out there for the fun of it. yep- arrow heads- get the point.
Beeline: Yes, of course, we know that Native Americans lived in and around the Yellowstone area for thousands of year. The problem with this discussion circles around the TIMING and the REASON the United States chose to declare parts of the Yellowstone area as America’s first national park. In 1871, after the photographs and artwork from a field visit to Yellowstone showing its remarkable geology and scenery reached Washington D.C., Congress took less than a year to declare it a national park.
No Native Americans were expelled from Yellowstone NP, as there were no Native Americans living in what was to become Yellowstone NP in 1872. However, there were a lot of white market hunters, game poachers and even white settlers starting to try and grab land for themselves, and Congress and Pres. Grant concluded that Yellowstone’s amazing geological features and natural wonders needed to be protected forever.
Why doesn’t the treaty and treating of the treatments be interwoven into the talk of the treatment of the trees? Is it because there is a feeding of the good wolf or the badly treated one? Or the yellow stone the gold? The beariefull bare deeper than hibernation has a quarter to den in but neither do poor anything. Trees that give berries mist be the nicest of all says the Robin. The fruit. Of nature or is it not a blessing to create black rivers upon sand. Butte crator creating oasis from mirages*
I have to disagree that most of the tribes in the area had either treaties or reservations by 1825. Look at the 1851 Ft. Laramie treaty, which ultimately failed, and the subsequent 1868 Ft. Laramie treaty which did establish several reservations. But obviously, numerous tribes still had serious conflicts between the 1850’s and late 1880’s. The Sioux Wars covered between 1854-1891 and often included the Northern Cheyenne. During that period, of note you had Red Cloud’s War (1866-68), the Battle of Pease Bottom (1868), the Great Sioux War of 1876 (which included the Battle of Little Big Horn), and the Nez Perce War of 1877 that went through the entire area including Yellowstone NP. The Crow War was later in 1887.
So, as can be seen, things were not at all settled in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon and Colorado.
Read it again. He said 1868 was when MOST tribes had treaties, and that they often didn’t stay on their reservation.
“ Many of the tribes associated with Yellowstone had reservations as early as 1825”
It’s alright, my reading comprehension skills are intact. Please……
What’s the difference between ‘many’ and ‘most’?
And while you focus on 1825, he emphasizes 1868.
I take issue with the entirety of this article, but especially the misleading description of why Yellowstone was “available” for designation as a park.
GW says “Many of the tribes associated with Yellowstone had reservations as early as 1825. This is an important date because Yellowstone was not even “explored” by any official expeditions until 1871 and the park was established by 1872. Though the dates are close, the events are unrelated.”
The removal of Indigenous people from the area later called Yellowstone is not unrelated to the designation of Yellowstone. The US government forcibly removed people from their land to claim it for their own. Why do you think many of the Tribes associated with what is now called Yellowstone were on reservations by 1925? Was this a voluntary act by the Indigenous people or a “choice” forced upon them?
What does the timeline suggest:
Removal Era: 1820-1850
Indian Removal Act 1830
Yellowstone Act: 1872
Did the U.S. government clear the area for settler colonizers and then decide is was worth protecting from settler colonists? It seems so. But it was never an area lacking human presence, even after the Indigenous people were forcibly removed.
I’m no historian, but GW, I don’t think you are either. It would be so great if you would stay in your lane and focus on grazing impacts rather than continue down the path of revisionist history to somehow justify your repeated attacks on Indigenous people. I just don’t understand your goal with your articles like this.
The goal is to protect what little Wilderness we have left. Many feel that National Parks should be returned to Natives because the land was stolen from them to make parks. GW’s take is that Natives were put on reservations long before anyone was even thinking about National Parks and there was conflict between white settlers and Natives. To save lives,(and mine, log, and graze that land), Natives were placed on reservations. NOT to make parks. That came much later, over 40 years later. If they wanted to remove Natives to make parks why wait 40 years? To suggest there was some long-term plan involved stretches the imagination. You are giving our government to much credit.
Don’t know where else to post this with new format, but does this name sound familiar?
https://missoulian.com/news/local/wolf-opponent-convicted-of-hunting-crimes/article_ac7d4a87-fd91-5d48-9b84-1121d5b6fb93.html?utm_source=missoulian.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fnews-alert&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=8211396d3262a83360e5cf7180e9da0945c3b057
Oh yes, although its taken a few years to finally melt out some justice.
https://www.thewildlifenews.com/2010/12/14/toby-bridges-again-busy-talking-about-wolf-poisoning-lord-knows-what-other-animals/
^^I wondered what ever became of him. Glad he was nabbed!
Anyway, here’s video of a rare sighting of a wolverine in Yellowstone, I think he or she has been seen twice!
How can we protect them from trapping?:
Put an end to trapping, Ida but that’s not going to happen anytime soon as long as there’s a market for fur and not enough public outcry.
Here’s another wolverine caught on film a few years ago. The location is about 20 miles from me, as the crow flies. Interesting coloration on the front leg.
Don’t want to stray too far from the original topic, but – it’s the only subject that both political parties seem to be able to find ‘unity’ in.
They’re it again – didn’t Wisconsin just prove that they cannot be trusted to manage a wolf population?:
https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/ron-johnson-tammy-baldwin-move-to-end-gray-wolf-protections/article_64710149-df79-54fb-a20d-7b94cb4ef378.html
This is sad, but things can be done about this.
I have been convinced for a long time that wildlife groups, environmental groups, climate change groups, and maybe even animal rights, need to form political action committees. New faces in the electoral system are often surprisingly effective.
As for Wisconsin, bypass action against Tammy Baldwin for now. Senator Ron Johnson, however, is up for reelection and he doesn’t look strong. He’s a Republican. His loss could be the vote that changes control of the Senate. He also known for his pro-Putin views. He has been a well known American supporter of the most dangerous person on Earth — Vladimir Putin. Wisconsonites need to be told about that again and again. What does this have to do with wolves and wildlife? Nothing at all, except his election defeat would help make this world a much better place for all those creatures including ourselves.
In addition the campaign by these hypothetical groups would emphasize the wildlife issues. They and these issues would get credit for his defeat. Tammy Baldwin would notice.