More grizzly bear deaths. Mortality quota exceeded for male and female bears in Greater Yellowstone-
States can’t manage grizzlies and they should be relisted-

Two grizzly bear cubs shot in NW Wyoming. AP. Oct. 27

The brief article doesn’t mention the ESA implications, but my earlier post certainly leads to the conclusion that both male and female grizzly mortality quotas for the year have been exceeded for the delisted Greater Yellowstone population.

-More- $10,000 offered in grizzly shooting case. Jackson Hole Daily. Oct. 28

The Wyoming Game and Fish Department is offering up to $10,000 for information about the shooting of two yearling grizzly cubs near Union Pass Road on Oct. 19.

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Ralph Maughan

Dr. Ralph Maughan is professor emeritus of political science at Idaho State University. He was a Western Watersheds Project Board Member off and on for many years, and was also its President for several years. For a long time he produced Ralph Maughan's Wolf Report. He was a founder of the Greater Yellowstone Coalition. He and Jackie Johnson Maughan wrote three editions of "Hiking Idaho." He also wrote "Beyond the Tetons" and "Backpacking Wyoming's Teton and Washakie Wilderness." He created and is the administrator of The Wildlife News.

21 Responses to Two grizzly bear cubs shot in NW Wyoming

  1. Jon Way says:

    Ralph it should say “Relisted” not “delisted” on the article’s title…

  2. Thanks Jon! Early in the morning!

  3. Peter Kiermeir says:

    …officials believe they have been taken illegaly (you bet) and not in self defense (need to self defense against cubs?) Question is, what happened to mom? Does she already grace a fireplace?

  4. Peter Kiermeir says:

    Ok the second article speaks about tracks of mom nearby….

  5. JB says:


    You’ve got to cut Ralph some slack. For 8 years we’ve been stuck with an administration that would never even think of RE-listing a species. Poor Ralph is out of practice! 😉

  6. Mike says:

    What the hell is wrong with Wyoming?

  7. chuck parker says:

    Don’t be so sure mortality limits have been exceeded–cubs barely count due to the way mortality limits were set when grizzlies were delisted. Also, exceeding mortality limits merely triggers a review, not automatic relisting as a threatened species. When US Fish & Wildlife Service grizzly bear recovery coordinatior Chris Servheen got grizzlies delisted, he made sure that getting them relisted would be damn near impossible. Dolts killing cubs may prove Servheen wrong.

  8. Chuck,

    I’m not completely sure, but given the fact that there are two months left to go, chances are high for more mortality . . . maybe a lot more. Events will unfortunately prove this headline to be correct.

  9. Jon Way says:

    Yes, you are right JB! Re-what…

  10. jerry b says:

    What a pair….Servheen and Bangs. Time to retire boys!

  11. Micheal L says:

    I read this web site everyday to keep up with the wonderful job Ralph does reporting facts. I am a Republican that supports the great work done here. I am disappointed that almost every subject has a comment regarding the current state of government. I am not happy either but I truly wonder with all the events affecting the country how much will be done by BO to change how wildlife is treated around Yellowstone and throughout the NW USA. I hope things change but doubt they will. I hope, in order, things are done to protect buffalo, bears and then wolves. We cannot lose what nature provides or we lose a great part of the identify that defines America.

  12. IzabelaM says:

    What is wrong with us people?
    Do we have to kill it all to prove that we are at the top..?
    ” I am a big guy with the gun and I killed 2 bear cubs…heheheh”
    just like I am a big hero..I killed “Limpy”

    My dream country I moved in 23 years ago is not so dreamy and wonderful any more…

    But, I still believe the ‘good’ prevail…

    This is one sad story…

  13. John says:

    Really does make one wonder what thoughts go through such people’s heads at times.

  14. TetonBadger says:

    Thought you would find this interesting a well…


    G&F Seeks Information on Moose Poaching
    PINEDALE- The Wyoming Game and Fish Department is seeking any
    information regarding two moose that were illegally shot and left
    approximately 10 miles northeast of Boulder on the Scab Creek Road, near
    the Scab Creek elk feedground. The two moose, a cow and a yearling
    bull, were both shot from the road with a high-powered rifle, presumably
    last Wednesday, October 22nd or Thursday, October 23rd. The two
    carcasses were discovered by Pinedale Game Warden Brian Nesvik during
    routine patrols last weekend. The meat was not salvageable.
    “We already have depressed moose populations in this area, so
    it makes the effects of this type of illegal shooting even more
    significant,” said Nesvik. “Not only is it disrespectful to the
    animals, it takes away the opportunity for others to hunt, photograph or
    just enjoy seeing them.”
    Anyone with possible information regarding this poaching
    incident, or other suspicious vehicles or activities, are encouraged to
    call the Pinedale Game and Fish office at 1-800-452-9107 or the STOP
    POACHING hotline at 1-877-WGFD-TIP (1-877-943-3847) or Pinedale Game
    Warden, Brian Nesvik at 307-367-2470. Any information leading to the
    arrest and conviction may result in a reward of up to $5,000.00.
    ~ WGFD ~

  15. Monty says:

    Micheal L, right on. What we do to our land & wildlife in the name of progress is off the charts. Our country has far too many hatefull citizens who vent their frustrations by “killing metaphors”.

  16. caleb says:

    Michael L, I used to be republican but am not any more. i read on that Yellowstone is BO’s favorite patch of public land so maybe he will do a better job of managing what is important to him.

  17. timz says:

    It’s becoming an epidemic. THis happened a few miles from my home.
    From todays paper:
    “Idaho Department of Fish and Game is seeking any information on two poached bull elk killed over the weekend in the Bear Run area north of Idaho City.
    F&G conservation officers reported they suspect two young men in their 20s may be responsible for killing a five-point and a six-point.
    Anyone with information can call the Citizens Against Poaching hotline at (800) 632-5999. Rewards are available for convictions, and callers can remain anonymous.”

  18. vicki says:


    I am impressed that the thought to try to salvage the meat was brought into play. That is a great way to try to make the best of a terrible situation.

    I don’t know what would cause a person to have such disregard for the law, but sadly, it seems to be a wide spread behavior.

  19. Peter Kiermeir says:

    Another cub incident, found on CNN today (and with a happy end): WOODFIN, North Carolina (AP) — Police in North Carolina had to halt traffic on a highway to help a mother bear get to her cub after it was struck and killed by a vehicle.
    Police said the cub was struck Tuesday afternoon and the driver didn’t stop.
    Officers in the western North Carolina town of Woodfin halted cars for about 20 minutes after the mother bear had failed twice at trying to get her 80-pound cub off the busy highway.
    Sgt. Dawn Roberts says officers stood with rifles while others pulled the cub to the side of the road near the mother. She says the mother bear grabbed the cub by the scruff of the neck and ran off into the woods to tend to it.

  20. Mike says:

    Just sad.

    Guess what folks……

    we are the noxious weed.

  21. Mike says:

    Adding to that, I really thank people out there who manage to have even a small level of self awareness. It really makes a difference in this world.

    These people who do the things posted in this threead are scared, stupid, confused and basically lack any kind of self awarness on any level. They go through life with blinders on.

    In the end, all that matters is how we treat each other and our home planet.


October 2008


‎"At some point we must draw a line across the ground of our home and our being, drive a spear into the land and say to the bulldozers, earthmovers, government and corporations, “thus far and no further.” If we do not, we shall later feel, instead of pride, the regret of Thoreau, that good but overly-bookish man, who wrote, near the end of his life, “If I repent of anything it is likely to be my good behaviour."

~ Edward Abbey